Microsoft accidentally made a great Chromebook

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Now that the new Chromium version of the Microsoft Edge browser has a native ARM beta, Dieter Bohn gives the Surface Pro X another go. What happens when you use it like a "Chromebook," only using the Edge browser and web apps whenever possible? It ends up being a lot nicer than you might think!
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The Verge ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
What do you think of the new Edge browser?
Keshav Taneja
Keshav Taneja 11 ਘੰਟੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I love it.
Jatin Singhal
Jatin Singhal 5 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
The browser is awesome and better than chrome and brave. If I want privacy I first of all have to leave chromium and go to Firefox
Jatin Singhal
Jatin Singhal 5 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
When Microsoft pays you after your review...
Jeremiah Townsend
Jeremiah Townsend 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
As someone who wants to be able to do at least 80% of their work in a browser, but feel that Chrome is becoming too demanding, I welcome the new Edge browser.
72dew 10 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
It's good, though I don't it to be any better than chrome feature-wise, I do find more comfort using a product from a company where I am the customer and not the product
Lukas König
Lukas König 4 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Is it better opinion instead of the ipad pro? I want to use a tablet for school
212helpdesk ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Now they are selling an upgraded cpu, sq-2 i think its called. Please review. Ty
Bhargav Deo
Bhargav Deo ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Dieter & Nilay 💯💯💯💯 bestttttt reviewers
raboox9 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
As if Lightroom is the only photo app worth running. If you don't need Adobe apps, the Pro X is a great device.
Geek Jawaid
Geek Jawaid 4 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Pro anyday
Yousef Saber
Yousef Saber 4 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
so this video just to show the potential of ARM windows computer if apps were optimized to run natively on ARM processors.
EPIC12EPIC 4 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Chrome book: mobile phone in a laptop Surface go/pro: laptop in a tablet
cr1m203 4 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
So iPad Pro it is.
Jatin Singhal
Jatin Singhal 5 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
When Microsoft pays you after your review...
Joe Toe
Joe Toe 5 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Super helpful; thx!
Rasul Said
Rasul Said 6 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
the subtitle just wrote Chrometana.
Roland Wong
Roland Wong 6 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Thanks for the revisit, got a Lenovo C630 because of it
John Smith
John Smith 6 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
ChromeOS is still crappier than Android. Companies need to concentrate on bringing the Android OS to laptops. There are already versions like Android x86 and Phoenix OS but they are not perfect.
Xavier Mathews
Xavier Mathews 6 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
That’s just doing too much. Just get an iPad.
Amy Del Toro
Amy Del Toro 7 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
My main interest in this device is the 4G LTE option since I’m more often than not in areas without easily accessible WiFi, but almost all the reviews I’ve seen mention the price not being worth it. What are some better priced devices that would allow me to continue working from remote locations?
Leonardo Rodriguez
Leonardo Rodriguez 6 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
There are not =)
Etharth Baratheon
Etharth Baratheon 7 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
look count= 1 VERY WELL!!!
Mera Wu
Mera Wu 7 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Yes. It’s ahead of its time. Finally, you headed to the right direction with web services for all thin client devices like the ARM-based. It’s really for the upcoming subscription-based DaaS markets, and currently the best you can have for Cloud DaaS/ VDI for business.
dean kaltsas
dean kaltsas 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
well, contrary to your advise, i purchased this device at a 600 discount. and i love it! i don;t do video or picture editing and work is just great! especially the T-Mobile sim with unlimited data for like $20 a month!
dean kaltsas
dean kaltsas 7 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
@MOBBAK 450 discount and I also had a credit of 200. I think it's still at 3 or 400 discount for the 8ram and 256 HD on the Microsoft store
MOBBAK 7 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
WHAT! From where did you get it? Who sell it for that price?
Gabriel Hernández
Gabriel Hernández 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Ha, ha, ha, ha... Awesome!!! ;-)
Fuseteam 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
using the windows key to search google bing: master microsoft i don't feel so good.......
Lila Uraraka
Lila Uraraka 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I have the 2018 iPad Pro, and I love it so much.
Badoo Renc
Badoo Renc 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Createx 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
4:14 Do people really complain about set up the computer the first time they use it -_-
MOBBAK 7 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Not me
Jay Wayne
Jay Wayne 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
The only reason I watch the verge is for Dieter :)
Alexandre 10 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
"You should not buy this computer" Yes, I should if I could.
Andrew Cramer
Andrew Cramer 10 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
x86 chromebook is better because you can easily run many windows apps through wine or something similar. An arm windows tablet at $1800 ill stay really really clear of that thanks.
TheSchmukk 10 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Would this be a good buy if you could get it cheaper than the SP7? Main use would be for work/productivity etc.
War .2. Fame
War .2. Fame 10 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
does the browser need zip ties to work?
Brian Wolters
Brian Wolters 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I am getting a Surface Pro X tomorrow...being an Android and heavy Google Services user, how well does Edge For Android integrate with my Android Phone? I wanted to load Chrome on this but afraid of battery drain.
salmonilaUK 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
How about you go and get a real job instead
ferri budiman
ferri budiman 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
i almost can't believe i am using Edge browser for more than 1 month now
Drew Lakebrink
Drew Lakebrink 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I appreciate the honesty in this video. I agree, the Pro X is too expensive and it's not clear who it was made for. Just give me the Surface Book 2 screen as a stand alone product and I'm happy.
Alex Vidal
Alex Vidal 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
The Verge. Credibility: ZERO
BigTangTheory 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
As long as it built. We should be fine.
Gaganpreet Singh
Gaganpreet Singh 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Your a good reviewer dude for sure
OneJazzKid 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Probably forgot the Insulating Pads.
Temo Chavez
Temo Chavez 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I would like to know if I will be able to use Silverlight on the pro x?
Oky Untoro Putra
Oky Untoro Putra 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Okay it's time to wait your command when we have to buy arm based device.
John Craig
John Craig 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I really hope the next generation surface go lands with an arm option.....light, always connected, great for productivity and affordable.
JP M 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
The new edge browser is amazing, it's basically chrome except faster and uses less ram
jazzynet1 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Why buy anything to run Windows on when you could have the fastest processor, largest available ram in the universe, and every time you update, your CPU is 100% usage? Thank God we have other OS's to use.
Jason HP
Jason HP 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
lack of money prevents me from doing stupid things
KevinMulia 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
In my prediction, 2021 will be the beginning for ARM laptop. Especially if there are $400-$600 laptop. The thin and light form factor will be very useful for lots of people.
KevinMulia 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
@Lawrence D’Oliveiro I believe we are pretty free-market with technology. It is just a market demand. Chromebook is not for us since it needs 100% internet connection, ours are not reliable enough. And there is an old mindset which I can't argue... If it isn't Windows, don't buy it. Linux is not the options for mass, while macOS is... expensive. Chrome OS is not reliable with 100% internet connection. Windows on ARM is a great welcome since it will have long battery and thin body while retain some extend of compabilities with x86 software if needed.
Lawrence D’Oliveiro
Lawrence D’Oliveiro 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Having free-market competition in your country would be good for this sort of thing.
KevinMulia 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
@Lawrence D’Oliveiro Well... not in my country
Lawrence D’Oliveiro
Lawrence D’Oliveiro 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Chromebooks have been selling well for years. The local shops are full of them.
Lumi Kløvstad
Lumi Kløvstad 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Fingers still crossed for an ARM powered Surface Go sequel.
MediaCastleX 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I still blame developers just treating Windows like the old dog that you throw scraps to... DESPITE trying like mad to make new things for them to use 🙄
Shaurya Patel
Shaurya Patel 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
It is exactly because of people saying it doesn't even run programs that we can't really move forward and companies like Intel still exist. The problem is just so we can keep the customers happy we have to provide "backwards" compatibility, that's only possible with architectures that make it possible(read bad engineering). Some amount of sacrifice is required for better experiences in the future. This is the sacrifice.
Vivek Kaushik
Vivek Kaushik 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
One Question - Can I use this laptop for programming like Android Studio or VSCode or something to edit code?
MOBBAK 7 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
VSCode will get an official ARM release and there is an unofficial one, but extensions may not work.
Rohit Gupta
Rohit Gupta 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
No arm does not work well with windows But it's improving will be good in two years
its_ Mike
its_ Mike 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Wish they made one on purpose
Johnny Irish
Johnny Irish 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Just look at the hardware. this is not too expensive. Apple would sell this with 40% higher price. The review is a good idea, but can you tech journalists once praise Microsoft without distancing yourselves immediately? Other thing I wanted to mention: The absolute majority of users either does not do videoediting, or has already a powerful machine for this kind of jobs. Being able to do video editing should be an extra stretch for a device to get 11 out of 10 points, but it is treate as if it is a necessity or 3 points.
Different 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I can't honestly take this guy seriously. Wtf does, "it takes too long to get started on Windows". What's a laptop to this guy? an everyday occurrence? The vast majority of people use a laptop for way more than a year, how bad could 10mim-20min be as opposed to 1min on a chrome book. Plus I feel like you can get on windows within a min or so while disabling all privacy and data requests. o and lightroom, such a useful app for the demographic of an ARM based notebook sized laptop/tablet.
Different 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
@cldpt when did your windows 10 reinstall itself due to an update, that has never happened to me and I had win10 on release. As for the rest they are of no importance to me but I can see your point.
cldpt 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Provisioning (that's the name of setting up devices for first use) is a pain. Especially on Windows 10 given you have to do this every 6 months due to "Windows-as-a-service" upgrades which are pretty much a reinstall-like wizard. Do you know how many times you have to set up a Chromebook or a tablet after an upgrade? None: they upgrade seamlessly. You do it the one time you buy it or factory reset it, then all it does is redex (recompile dynamic files) And the real problems with W10 provisioning are related to privacy and cloud accounts being WAY too obscure. Every single one of Windows's updates gets you a different flow, with one more setting to opt out from (or a harder time doing it) and new tricks to force you into logging with a Microsoft account vs Local. Granted, Google also nags you with cloud accounts but at least on those ecosystems (Android OR Chrome OS) there are clear benefits and everybody already does it. I am yet to find a super-duper important reason to use an MS account - even bitlocker cloud key storage or the freemium apps on their store aren't worth it (thank god). There aren't "killer features" for me. Then again, I don't use these devices in a corporate environment nor depend heavily on OneDrive.
Salahudin346 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Surface is not officially available in the Philippines.
B. Allen
B. Allen 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I'm an APPLE man... Never Windows 308x hahaha full of spyware.
Yohann Tung
Yohann Tung 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
阴阳怪气 佛了
Amin Sennour
Amin Sennour 11 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Sounds like it’s just a worse iPad Pro?
Internet Privacy Advocate
Internet Privacy Advocate ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Does it run Linux?
tubetop123 ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
All Surface tablets have one big issue. It sits so low your head has to look down quite a bit. Very bad ergonomics for your neck. Just look at how low he looks down. The top of the screen should be at or near your eye level. That's basic ergonomics since 1990s
Zack McCoy
Zack McCoy ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I learned so much about chrome in this video. lol
Chris ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Please stop using apps you leverage as a blogger the bellwether of what everyone else needs to look for in a device. Most users haven't even heard of Lightroom.
Jason Hindle
Jason Hindle ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Is Windows on ARM a good idea? Absolutely! Will Microsoft Office, the Adobe apps and so on be recompiled for ARM anytime soon? Well how long have they had already? This isn’t exactly bleeding edge. I think APPL will kill MSFT when it comes to ARM on a variety of systems currently dominated by Intel.
Abu Maryam
Abu Maryam ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
F**k intel. ARM all the way
DrummerGamer ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
It seemed more like a praise for the new Edge thing more than the device actually
G8M8N8 ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Great and ChromeBook don’t go together
Mllr Hr
Mllr Hr ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
will you review the new xps 13?
Brandon ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Unfair comparison. Your Chromebook can't play Counterstrike or DOTA or World of Warcraft. Or Photoshop or Illustrator. Or a competent Office suite. etc, etc, etc.
Errol Neal
Errol Neal ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Again not sure why Microsoft even went down this route. its basically the RT which failed horribly..for the same reason this will fail. People aren't gonna be sold on a Windows device that will be basically limited to running web apps performantly.
인포니어TV ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Wow.. I've owned 3 MS surface products.. go, laptop and pro. Shall I consider to buy this again?
Sophearith Saing
Sophearith Saing ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
From Surface Pro X to Surface Pro Edge
China Superpower
China Superpower ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Microsoft needs to make Windows 10 ARM that has native ARM compatibility. Once Windows goes ARM, the laptop/desktop industry can finally move on to ARM chips and get rid of the awful x86 monopoly.
Mailo Kirmes
Mailo Kirmes ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Oh my god this chrometana thing just changed my life😂
Ram Annepu
Ram Annepu ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Microsoft just hijacked all google features with edge and best android connectivity. Microsoft is cool again
HoJoMo ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Thanks Dieter, great review! I won't buy one!! Have almost perfected running Office on my MacBookPro. Edge is good, and rapidly approaching Brave, so I'm right behind you - thanks for saving me €1700!😉
Robert Abshear
Robert Abshear ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Useless tablet! Surface go is more pro.
Kevin Yeh
Kevin Yeh ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
"Think of [the Surface Pro X as] sort of like a Chromebook that happens to run Office apps, right? Let's just pretend, right?" -Dieter Bohn, Microsoft Surface Pro X review
Aaleja ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Do cintrix apps work on the surface x
Curtis B
Curtis B ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Hey, does anyone know if this runs Lightroom???
Max T
Max T ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
What happened to chrometana pro?
Sam Swift
Sam Swift ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Omg just get an iPad
Max Paolucci
Max Paolucci ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
LUT fell off that last frame. smh
Ar.Matrix ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
First you need a table
Kevin Lei
Kevin Lei ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
The best Chromebook that starts at $900
Javed Ali
Javed Ali ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Macbook is far ahead for editing softwares. RIP: Microsoft windows
Mistah Miggy
Mistah Miggy ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Until the Galaxy Chromebook comes out ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Yuzaki ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Sorry but the app store makes iPad better :/ (surface user)
B T ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Yeah bad windows updates are too long and very intrusive.
Kris Hartner
Kris Hartner ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Chromebook - except you can’t use Google Drive. Or at least you couldn’t when I tested this about six weeks ago. Made it unusable for me.
safeabz aka
safeabz aka ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Thank you poor marketing on Microsoft behalf. That's actually a very good point
E. Castillo
E. Castillo ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Microsoft made an iPad that doesn't run iPad OS.
Kev Lew
Kev Lew ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Dieter you just low-key sold me on the new Microsoft Edge browser. I had NO idea it had so many features and I canNOT wait to try it out.
Walter Juarez
Walter Juarez ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
$1700 for a web browser 🤔
GS Naomi Smalls
GS Naomi Smalls ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Idk abt the us, but you can get a surface pro x bundle with the keyboard and pen at costco for 1,300$ CAD(abt 984$ in the US)
Mulyadi Kurniawan
Mulyadi Kurniawan ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
The title of the video got my attention. :)
Kip Smith
Kip Smith ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I'd rather have Cortana ask what are me privacy settings preferences -- than have Google not ask.
Yu Cheng
Yu Cheng ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
And Google stops supporting chrome apps.
David Ross
David Ross ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I REALLY want to buy this computer, but Dieter tells me that I can't! :-(
Craig Little
Craig Little ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Yeah I was thinking exactly what you were talking about, it would make the perfect chromebook apart from the fact you couldn't download offline content for things like PApost & Amazon easily.
The Basketball Historian
The Basketball Historian ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
- Doesn't run the millions of Android apps a Chromebook does. - Doesn't even run all Windows apps, especially high-end ones. "This is the best Chromebook!"
pbilk1 ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Most Android​​ apps on Chromebooks are "meh" because they aren't optimized for larger screens because Android tablets have stucked for a long time.
Chris Wong
Chris Wong ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Yeah, about to return mine. Not that happy with the x86 app emulation performance in just a couple of key areas for me. Many pluses, but it's not the entire package just yet...
Frank Feng
Frank Feng ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
MS could've succeeded from collaboration with Nokia only if they had actually focused on expanding the ARM ecosystem.
Nikita Evdokimov
Nikita Evdokimov ਸਾਲ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
It`s really is a good product, hope that Lightroom will be available the soonest, because Dieter really wants it :)
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