Microsoft accidentally made a great Chromebook

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Now that the new Chromium version of the Microsoft Edge browser has a native ARM beta, Dieter Bohn gives the Surface Pro X another go. What happens when you use it like a "Chromebook," only using the Edge browser and web apps whenever possible? It ends up being a lot nicer than you might think!
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The Verge
The Verge 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
What do you think of the new Edge browser?
Jatin Singhal
Jatin Singhal 2 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
The browser is awesome and better than chrome and brave. If I want privacy I first of all have to leave chromium and go to Firefox
Jatin Singhal
Jatin Singhal 2 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
When Microsoft pays you after your review...
Jeremiah Townsend
Jeremiah Townsend 5 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
As someone who wants to be able to do at least 80% of their work in a browser, but feel that Chrome is becoming too demanding, I welcome the new Edge browser.
72dew 7 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
It's good, though I don't it to be any better than chrome feature-wise, I do find more comfort using a product from a company where I am the customer and not the product
Breaking Bad
Breaking Bad 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
New Edge browser is the best browser now on the market along with Firefox. 😍
raboox9 23 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
As if Lightroom is the only photo app worth running. If you don't need Adobe apps, the Pro X is a great device.
Geek Jawaid
Geek Jawaid ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Pro anyday
Yousef Saber
Yousef Saber ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
so this video just to show the potential of ARM windows computer if apps were optimized to run natively on ARM processors.
EPIC12EPIC ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Chrome book: mobile phone in a laptop Surface go/pro: laptop in a tablet
cr1m203 2 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
So iPad Pro it is.
Jatin Singhal
Jatin Singhal 2 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
When Microsoft pays you after your review...
Joe Toe
Joe Toe 2 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Super helpful; thx!
Rasul Said
Rasul Said 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
the subtitle just wrote Chrometana.
Roland Wong
Roland Wong 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Thanks for the revisit, got a Lenovo C630 because of it
John Smith
John Smith 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
ChromeOS is still crappier than Android. Companies need to concentrate on bringing the Android OS to laptops. There are already versions like Android x86 and Phoenix OS but they are not perfect.
Xavier Mathews
Xavier Mathews 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
That’s just doing too much. Just get an iPad.
Amy Del Toro
Amy Del Toro 4 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
My main interest in this device is the 4G LTE option since I’m more often than not in areas without easily accessible WiFi, but almost all the reviews I’ve seen mention the price not being worth it. What are some better priced devices that would allow me to continue working from remote locations?
Leonardo Rodriguez
Leonardo Rodriguez 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
There are not =)
Etharth Baratheon
Etharth Baratheon 4 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
look count= 1 VERY WELL!!!
Mera Wu
Mera Wu 4 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Yes. It’s ahead of its time. Finally, you headed to the right direction with web services for all thin client devices like the ARM-based. It’s really for the upcoming subscription-based DaaS markets, and currently the best you can have for Cloud DaaS/ VDI for business.
dean kaltsas
dean kaltsas 5 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
well, contrary to your advise, i purchased this device at a 600 discount. and i love it! i don;t do video or picture editing and work is just great! especially the T-Mobile sim with unlimited data for like $20 a month!
dean kaltsas
dean kaltsas 4 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
@MOBBAK 450 discount and I also had a credit of 200. I think it's still at 3 or 400 discount for the 8ram and 256 HD on the Microsoft store
MOBBAK 4 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
WHAT! From where did you get it? Who sell it for that price?
Joel Justin
Joel Justin 5 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I have a feeling that standard exe executable apps you download from websites will one day become outdated and more devs will turn towards Windows Store to host their apps. App having subscription service can actually take advantage of payment options built inside Store, just like Google's Play Store.
Gabriel Hernández
Gabriel Hernández 5 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Ha, ha, ha, ha... Awesome!!! ;-)
Fuseteam 5 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
using the windows key to search google bing: master microsoft i don't feel so good.......
Lila Uraraka
Lila Uraraka 5 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I have the 2018 iPad Pro, and I love it so much.
Badoo Renc
Badoo Renc 6 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Createx 6 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
4:14 Do people really complain about set up the computer the first time they use it -_-
MOBBAK 4 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Not me
Jay Wayne
Jay Wayne 6 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
The only reason I watch the verge is for Dieter :)
Alexandre 7 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
"You should not buy this computer" Yes, I should if I could.
Andrew Cramer
Andrew Cramer 7 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
x86 chromebook is better because you can easily run many windows apps through wine or something similar. An arm windows tablet at $1800 ill stay really really clear of that thanks.
TheSchmukk 7 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Would this be a good buy if you could get it cheaper than the SP7? Main use would be for work/productivity etc.
War .2. Fame
War .2. Fame 7 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
does the browser need zip ties to work?
Brian Wolters
Brian Wolters 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I am getting a Surface Pro X tomorrow...being an Android and heavy Google Services user, how well does Edge For Android integrate with my Android Phone? I wanted to load Chrome on this but afraid of battery drain.
salmonilaUK 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
How about you go and get a real job instead
ferri budiman
ferri budiman 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
i almost can't believe i am using Edge browser for more than 1 month now
Drew Lakebrink
Drew Lakebrink 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I appreciate the honesty in this video. I agree, the Pro X is too expensive and it's not clear who it was made for. Just give me the Surface Book 2 screen as a stand alone product and I'm happy.
Alex Vidal
Alex Vidal 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
The Verge. Credibility: ZERO
BigTangTheory 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
As long as it built. We should be fine.
Jonas Comb
Jonas Comb 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
1700 dollars? Just get an iPhone X ultra whatever.
Gaganpreet Singh
Gaganpreet Singh 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Your a good reviewer dude for sure
OneJazzKid 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Probably forgot the Insulating Pads.
Temo Chavez
Temo Chavez 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I would like to know if I will be able to use Silverlight on the pro x?
Oky Untoro Putra
Oky Untoro Putra 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Okay it's time to wait your command when we have to buy arm based device.
John Craig
John Craig 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I really hope the next generation surface go lands with an arm option.....light, always connected, great for productivity and affordable.
JP M 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
The new edge browser is amazing, it's basically chrome except faster and uses less ram
jazzynet1 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Why buy anything to run Windows on when you could have the fastest processor, largest available ram in the universe, and every time you update, your CPU is 100% usage? Thank God we have other OS's to use.
Jason HP
Jason HP 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
lack of money prevents me from doing stupid things
KevinMulia 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
In my prediction, 2021 will be the beginning for ARM laptop. Especially if there are $400-$600 laptop. The thin and light form factor will be very useful for lots of people.
KevinMulia 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
@Lawrence D’Oliveiro I believe we are pretty free-market with technology. It is just a market demand. Chromebook is not for us since it needs 100% internet connection, ours are not reliable enough. And there is an old mindset which I can't argue... If it isn't Windows, don't buy it. Linux is not the options for mass, while macOS is... expensive. Chrome OS is not reliable with 100% internet connection. Windows on ARM is a great welcome since it will have long battery and thin body while retain some extend of compabilities with x86 software if needed.
Lawrence D’Oliveiro
Lawrence D’Oliveiro 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Having free-market competition in your country would be good for this sort of thing.
KevinMulia 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
@Lawrence D’Oliveiro Well... not in my country
Lawrence D’Oliveiro
Lawrence D’Oliveiro 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Chromebooks have been selling well for years. The local shops are full of them.
Lumi Kløvstad
Lumi Kløvstad 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Fingers still crossed for an ARM powered Surface Go sequel.
MediaCastleX 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I still blame developers just treating Windows like the old dog that you throw scraps to... DESPITE trying like mad to make new things for them to use 🙄
Shaurya Patel
Shaurya Patel 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
It is exactly because of people saying it doesn't even run programs that we can't really move forward and companies like Intel still exist. The problem is just so we can keep the customers happy we have to provide "backwards" compatibility, that's only possible with architectures that make it possible(read bad engineering). Some amount of sacrifice is required for better experiences in the future. This is the sacrifice.
Vivek Kaushik
Vivek Kaushik 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
One Question - Can I use this laptop for programming like Android Studio or VSCode or something to edit code?
MOBBAK 4 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
VSCode will get an official ARM release and there is an unofficial one, but extensions may not work.
Rohit Gupta
Rohit Gupta 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
No arm does not work well with windows But it's improving will be good in two years
its_ Mike
its_ Mike 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Wish they made one on purpose
Johnny Irish
Johnny Irish 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Just look at the hardware. this is not too expensive. Apple would sell this with 40% higher price. The review is a good idea, but can you tech journalists once praise Microsoft without distancing yourselves immediately? Other thing I wanted to mention: The absolute majority of users either does not do videoediting, or has already a powerful machine for this kind of jobs. Being able to do video editing should be an extra stretch for a device to get 11 out of 10 points, but it is treate as if it is a necessity or 3 points.
Different 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I can't honestly take this guy seriously. Wtf does, "it takes too long to get started on Windows". What's a laptop to this guy? an everyday occurrence? The vast majority of people use a laptop for way more than a year, how bad could 10mim-20min be as opposed to 1min on a chrome book. Plus I feel like you can get on windows within a min or so while disabling all privacy and data requests. o and lightroom, such a useful app for the demographic of an ARM based notebook sized laptop/tablet.
Different 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
@cldpt when did your windows 10 reinstall itself due to an update, that has never happened to me and I had win10 on release. As for the rest they are of no importance to me but I can see your point.
cldpt 8 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Provisioning (that's the name of setting up devices for first use) is a pain. Especially on Windows 10 given you have to do this every 6 months due to "Windows-as-a-service" upgrades which are pretty much a reinstall-like wizard. Do you know how many times you have to set up a Chromebook or a tablet after an upgrade? None: they upgrade seamlessly. You do it the one time you buy it or factory reset it, then all it does is redex (recompile dynamic files) And the real problems with W10 provisioning are related to privacy and cloud accounts being WAY too obscure. Every single one of Windows's updates gets you a different flow, with one more setting to opt out from (or a harder time doing it) and new tricks to force you into logging with a Microsoft account vs Local. Granted, Google also nags you with cloud accounts but at least on those ecosystems (Android OR Chrome OS) there are clear benefits and everybody already does it. I am yet to find a super-duper important reason to use an MS account - even bitlocker cloud key storage or the freemium apps on their store aren't worth it (thank god). There aren't "killer features" for me. Then again, I don't use these devices in a corporate environment nor depend heavily on OneDrive.
Salahudin346 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Surface is not officially available in the Philippines.
B. Allen
B. Allen 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I'm an APPLE man... Never Windows 308x hahaha full of spyware.
Yohann Tung
Yohann Tung 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
阴阳怪气 佛了
Amin Sennour
Amin Sennour 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Sounds like it’s just a worse iPad Pro?
Nathaniel12345678910 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
No Lightroom, what will we do
Internet Privacy Advocate
Internet Privacy Advocate 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Does it run Linux?
tubetop123 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
All Surface tablets have one big issue. It sits so low your head has to look down quite a bit. Very bad ergonomics for your neck. Just look at how low he looks down. The top of the screen should be at or near your eye level. That's basic ergonomics since 1990s
Zack McCoy
Zack McCoy 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I learned so much about chrome in this video. lol
Chris 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Please stop using apps you leverage as a blogger the bellwether of what everyone else needs to look for in a device. Most users haven't even heard of Lightroom.
Jason Hindle
Jason Hindle 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Is Windows on ARM a good idea? Absolutely! Will Microsoft Office, the Adobe apps and so on be recompiled for ARM anytime soon? Well how long have they had already? This isn’t exactly bleeding edge. I think APPL will kill MSFT when it comes to ARM on a variety of systems currently dominated by Intel.
Abu Maryam
Abu Maryam 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
F**k intel. ARM all the way
DrummerGamer 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
It seemed more like a praise for the new Edge thing more than the device actually
G8M8N8 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Great and ChromeBook don’t go together
Mllr Hr
Mllr Hr 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
will you review the new xps 13?
Brandon 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Unfair comparison. Your Chromebook can't play Counterstrike or DOTA or World of Warcraft. Or Photoshop or Illustrator. Or a competent Office suite. etc, etc, etc.
[] S ᗩ ᒪ []
[] S ᗩ ᒪ [] 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Yeah no. This thing is way overpriced and underpowered
Errol Neal
Errol Neal 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Again not sure why Microsoft even went down this route. its basically the RT which failed horribly..for the same reason this will fail. People aren't gonna be sold on a Windows device that will be basically limited to running web apps performantly.
인포니어TV 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Wow.. I've owned 3 MS surface products.. go, laptop and pro. Shall I consider to buy this again?
Sophearith Saing
Sophearith Saing 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
From Surface Pro X to Surface Pro Edge
China Superpower
China Superpower 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Microsoft needs to make Windows 10 ARM that has native ARM compatibility. Once Windows goes ARM, the laptop/desktop industry can finally move on to ARM chips and get rid of the awful x86 monopoly.
Mailo Kirmes
Mailo Kirmes 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Oh my god this chrometana thing just changed my life😂
Ram Annepu
Ram Annepu 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Microsoft just hijacked all google features with edge and best android connectivity. Microsoft is cool again
HoJoMo 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Thanks Dieter, great review! I won't buy one!! Have almost perfected running Office on my MacBookPro. Edge is good, and rapidly approaching Brave, so I'm right behind you - thanks for saving me €1700!😉
Robert Abshear
Robert Abshear 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Useless tablet! Surface go is more pro.
Kevin Yeh
Kevin Yeh 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
"Think of [the Surface Pro X as] sort of like a Chromebook that happens to run Office apps, right? Let's just pretend, right?" -Dieter Bohn, Microsoft Surface Pro X review
Aaleja 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Do cintrix apps work on the surface x
Curtis B
Curtis B 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Hey, does anyone know if this runs Lightroom???
Max T
Max T 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
What happened to chrometana pro?
Sam Swift
Sam Swift 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Omg just get an iPad
Max Paolucci
Max Paolucci 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
LUT fell off that last frame. smh
Ar.Matrix 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
First you need a table
Kevin Lei
Kevin Lei 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
The best Chromebook that starts at $900
Javed Ali
Javed Ali 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Macbook is far ahead for editing softwares. RIP: Microsoft windows
Mistah Miggy
Mistah Miggy 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Until the Galaxy Chromebook comes out ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Yuzaki 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Sorry but the app store makes iPad better :/ (surface user)
B T 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Yeah bad windows updates are too long and very intrusive.
Kris Hartner
Kris Hartner 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Chromebook - except you can’t use Google Drive. Or at least you couldn’t when I tested this about six weeks ago. Made it unusable for me.
safeabz aka
safeabz aka 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Thank you poor marketing on Microsoft behalf. That's actually a very good point
E. Castillo
E. Castillo 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Microsoft made an iPad that doesn't run iPad OS.
Kev Lew
Kev Lew 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Dieter you just low-key sold me on the new Microsoft Edge browser. I had NO idea it had so many features and I canNOT wait to try it out.
Walter Juarez
Walter Juarez 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
$1700 for a web browser 🤔
Gurvaaz Sidhu
Gurvaaz Sidhu 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Idk abt the us, but you can get a surface pro x bundle with the keyboard and pen at costco for 1,300$ CAD(abt 984$ in the US)
Mulyadi Kurniawan
Mulyadi Kurniawan 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
The title of the video got my attention. :)
Kip Smith
Kip Smith 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I'd rather have Cortana ask what are me privacy settings preferences -- than have Google not ask.
Yu Cheng
Yu Cheng 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
And Google stops supporting chrome apps.
David Ross
David Ross 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I REALLY want to buy this computer, but Dieter tells me that I can't! :-(
Craig Little
Craig Little 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Yeah I was thinking exactly what you were talking about, it would make the perfect chromebook apart from the fact you couldn't download offline content for things like PApost & Amazon easily.
Parker's NBA History
Parker's NBA History 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
- Doesn't run the millions of Android apps a Chromebook does. - Doesn't even run all Windows apps, especially high-end ones. "This is the best Chromebook!"
pbilk1 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Most Android​​ apps on Chromebooks are "meh" because they aren't optimized for larger screens because Android tablets have stucked for a long time.
Chris Wong
Chris Wong 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Yeah, about to return mine. Not that happy with the x86 app emulation performance in just a couple of key areas for me. Many pluses, but it's not the entire package just yet...
Frank Feng
Frank Feng 9 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
MS could've succeeded from collaboration with Nokia only if they had actually focused on expanding the ARM ecosystem.
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