How to choose between a phone and a camera

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The Sony Xperia 1 II or the ZV-1? If the most important thing on a new phone for you is the camera, what if you just bought a camera instead of a new phone? In this episode of Processor, Dieter Bohn compares the Sony Xperia 1 II smartphone and the Sony ZV-1 "vlogging" camera. They're designed for different things, but looking at them together can teach us something about how to choose our technology.
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0:00 Intro
0:54 Here’s a question
1:28 Sony camera world
2:23 Sony Xperia 1 II phone
3:38 Sony ZV-1 camera
5:56 How is the ZV-1 has a vlogging camera?
7:39 Back to the Xperia 1 II
8:59 Photo examples
9:24 Hi Vjeran
10:56 Answering the question
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The Verge
The Verge 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Would you buy a camera instead of a new phone?
Julia
Julia 2 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I bought a new phone to use to start my channel. I needed a new phone, im on a budget and I picked the galaxy a51 and really regretted it. So i panicked and researched and landed on the motorola one zoom....and that camera makes everything look slightly blue. So now I need to decide which phone i hate least and return the other one...or return both and start over. I considered buying a camera for my channel but my budgets $500 max and I cant imagine I can get a good camera with that. Anyone have any suggestions be it phone or camera, youd be saving me😂 i cant make a damn decision to save my life. Its slightly concerning actually 😂 im a young widow and hes been gone a few years but I am reminded of how much I relied on his input to make choices lol I have been told to get a iphone but ive used google photos for so long
Belinda Villarente
Belinda Villarente 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Definitely it's nice to have a smartphone with a good camera. Who wants to have a smartphone because of the camera only.. sony user here eversince..♥♥
fatcrewz
fatcrewz 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Depends, if you love vlogging and taking picture then camera is the choice. But if you just casual user just buy a phone
Ilpo Heikkilä
Ilpo Heikkilä 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
The Verge Yes! Every time. And I have.
Victor Rumyantsev
Victor Rumyantsev 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
@Loki27 Smartphone is not only a social media accounts device, you know. Quite opposite, it is basically a powerful pocket size mini-computer with constant Internet access, 24/7 news, GPS, Skype, emails, documents creator, reader, music player, very capable camera with photo editing tools, phone etc etc. But the camera is just the camera, you know. I can only make photos, nothing more.
DOICES Life
DOICES Life 10 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
My S8 is already on it's last life and I want to get myself a camera as well so I'll give the xperia a try and if I like the camera I will give their cameras a try.
Lucet
Lucet 20 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I stopped watching the moment he mispronounced the name of the Xperia 1 II phone.
Seth K Johnson
Seth K Johnson 26 ਦਿਨ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
That makes sense. Painting isn’t drawing. Drawing isn’t sculpture.
SD Water
SD Water ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Wish I would've seen this sooner. I got the Xperia 1ii and it's AMAZING. Packs a lot more than the Pixel 4 does, and actually feels worth the price. But I could totally see myself saving $1000 too lol
B B
B B ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Xperia 1 ii vs canon m50 anyone’s opinion?
Adam Muise
Adam Muise ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Great insight, thanks. A shutter button makes a huge deal for stability on a phone and the standard controls for an exposure triangle will let you have the creative options. If I didn't have a rx100vii I would have bought this phone.
KL Gupta
KL Gupta ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Alpha rocks
Dhimas Tri Prastyo
Dhimas Tri Prastyo 2 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Mark mark markkkk twoooo
niclas lindman
niclas lindman 2 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
US not support 5G beacouse Sony not like Carriers lock mobile and put in own things that changes Sony's Android system have and lock so just work in there own 5G so not Then work in another and That Not Sony do and reason Got late in to USA was beacouse not can be unlock so work to all Carriers 5G Had to enable 5G from phone so had to take back to Factory and take 5G away from phone if like to sell it in USA so when That call Freedom is not Freedom are Other Decide you're freedom and that Just do Not get Tech other get have to buy Internstionel version That work to all 5G 🤔 So areUSA Rules that Do that not can use 5G same patent Got out from Apple so Can use On off and fingerprint in same Place that reason had to have separate when Phone before had to enable fingerprint Reader for not use Apple Fingerprint reader are USA Have Rules Sony not like lock up and 5G must do of not go sell phone in USA so freedom you in US think have that not have 🤔
Lu G.
Lu G. 2 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Unless one needs to vlog, get a phone. Who really brings a camera daily?
Brett Bennion
Brett Bennion 2 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Great video. And that’s why I’m a Fuji shooter :)
Torin Nayak
Torin Nayak 2 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
First you need a table
Abdul Aden
Abdul Aden 2 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Dude it’s Xperia 1 “Mark 2”
Alfredo Perez
Alfredo Perez 2 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Great review, however, I completely disagree with the statement about style and technology. This is questionable, your vision of style can not be dependable or compromise due to the technology. The technology should serve and could leverage aspects of your vision. I am a Sony photographer and I take advantage of new aids and features, but the core is not the technology, I can shoot with a Nikon or Canon as well, even with a really old box. Now technology is more instrumental of people's need, for example I do bicycle touring to some areas that are not suitable to take certain equipment, so a multi-feature cell phone, that could offer some shooting options could be the answer, or as you said maybe a small camera with the motion options.
Souvik Mondal
Souvik Mondal 2 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I am gonna save you time: Buy what you want!
Pixel Shader™
Pixel Shader™ 2 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
01:08 Your third attempt and yet you couldn't spell the Sony Xperia 1 Mark II right.
Thomas Chong
Thomas Chong 2 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
My global model set of Xperia 1 II Support 5G and RAW mode now. Worth while buying. ✌️
Ujjwal Kumar
Ujjwal Kumar 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
dude you seems 65 in this video
Sanyam Kalra
Sanyam Kalra 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Just review the phone separately we want to know how it works as compared to other phones not a camera we know a proper camera will perform better than a phone camera "duh"
zedftofficial
zedftofficial 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Nice video!
Pradeep Kurian
Pradeep Kurian 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
da!
Aditya Prabhakar
Aditya Prabhakar 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
that thing you did from 2:32 to 3:05, don't do that!
Fish 3010
Fish 3010 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Simple answer: you wanna play or you wanna take photos?
ZECT צורי
ZECT צורי 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I bring only iPad pro 11 as camera for photography...is it normal?
max max
max max 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Gej
Clout
Clout 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I don't care about all the blablabla! People just want results! The process of getting the results should be easy too. That's it! The rest just does not matter at the end of the day!
Hasan
Hasan 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I don't usually care about how people are dressed in reviews but I wanted to point out the very nice fashion sense here
James W
James W 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I think this was a fair discussion on both cameras, especially the Sony camera. And Vjeran was right. It really depends on philosophy and what you want to do with your camera. I hope Sony invests in Auto Mode on their Xperias and keeps this pro mode. I don't think it's a gimmick. I just think the market demands point and shoots first, pro mode later.
Kiran sankar pati
Kiran sankar pati 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I have an ipad mini. Reading is lot easier than a phone now. Now it is more logical for me to have this zv1 camera. Than iphone.
Sourav Dey
Sourav Dey 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Sony zv1 costs 1100 bucks in my country so what do you think I should do😂
Michele Platts
Michele Platts 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I've purchased this phone brand new for £799, however as of yet I've not captured one good image - my Z flip captures much sharper photographs. I'm not familiar with how to get the correct settings - night images are shocking. Can anyone offer some simple advice, before I return it?
Shane Vyas
Shane Vyas 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
2:28 it's the Xperia 5 not xperia 1
Kris from Berlin
Kris from Berlin 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I missed a bit more picture comparison and video side by side.
Dan Q
Dan Q 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
10:39 cracked bottom corner
Fabio A.
Fabio A. 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Just some feedback, the out of focus specs looked very strange. But just an opinion. Love the channel.
Kunal _
Kunal _ 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I thought I'll be watching some Xperia 1ii vs a Camera. All I end up watching is ........ meh
sleepyIC
sleepyIC 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
If you review a product could you at least bother to learn how to pronounce the name correctly ? 🤦🏻‍♂️
Anton Fetzer
Anton Fetzer 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Just a few days ago I made the decision to not buy a new camera and just buy a good phone because phone cameras have been catching up a lot to the point where most point and shoot cameras on the market are effectively obsolete.
Rich Taylor
Rich Taylor 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
You make excellent reviews and vids Deiter :-)
Prashant Chaudhary
Prashant Chaudhary 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Too much overacting 👎👎
Jordan Crawford
Jordan Crawford 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Super small ask for the photos section outside selfie... can you wear a mask when outside? I know there may be 0 people around, but I feel like we need mask advertising right now.
Brandon Carson
Brandon Carson 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Dieter goes off the rails!
MS J
MS J 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
For the first time ever, Dieter's review kinda.... Duh...
SevenForce80
SevenForce80 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Who trusts these idiots on anything tech related?
Isaac Alonzo
Isaac Alonzo 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
ZV-1 makes more sense TBH
Xennic
Xennic 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Duh.
Deidara
Deidara 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Stop saying duh! 🤦‍♂️
Ara J
Ara J 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
This guy have zero energy or passion in his reviews if it is not apple products
CWV
CWV 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Does the Shooting grip connect to the Xperia 1 II?????
Matthew Gonzales
Matthew Gonzales 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
This video just kills Sony’s phones. I get everything said. But it’s a Sony killer.
Anshu Kumar
Anshu Kumar 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Am I only one who hate that blur effect in the video?
beton scheitel
beton scheitel 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I think the footage from the zv1 is so noisy because the nd filter was on 1:28
Garrett Green
Garrett Green 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
For me, it’s all about the convince of one device that’s always on me. That means a smartphone. If I’m going to invest in a camera it WILL NOT be a point and shoot.
Feng Wang
Feng Wang 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
It's easy: If you want to make phone calls, buy a phone. If you want to take photos, buy a camera.
jukijunk
jukijunk 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Sony is like a tuned Supra of the car world
David Ramirez
David Ramirez 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Eww stop putting headphone jacks on phones already
fruitpunch samurai
fruitpunch samurai 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Useless comparison, i'd buy the sony phone obviously cause it's great in everything not just having a top notch camera duhh
Lokesh Loki
Lokesh Loki 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Choose between phone and camera ho ok Ok their is camera all long the video where is the phone I mean where is the normal things on a phone is it good for it 🤷‍♂️🤷🏼
Moulik Gupta
Moulik Gupta 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Never seen a more boring Tech video. Guy says he wants to quickly run through the specs but takes a 5 second pause before starting... Wut🤐
pratik kumar
pratik kumar 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Xperia 1 ii is unlike any other android phone I have seen and I can’t pin-point why.
Joe Filter
Joe Filter 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Pretty repetitive and thus superficial.
Ilpo Heikkilä
Ilpo Heikkilä 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
My next camera has to shoot 4K video so I just might be entering the Sony world. Never been there. Only Canon, Nikon, Panasonic etc.
Nika Shalamberidze
Nika Shalamberidze 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I love this smartphone so much im learning videography for about one year and i want took movie on Xperia 1mark 2 but i dont have that much money to buy can you send me that smartphone? I will be so grateful
Sydney
Sydney 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
4:38 No animals have actually been terminated during the manufacture and making of this wooly camera sleeve 😂😂😂😂
FortegoLite
FortegoLite 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Dieter Bohn after three cups of coffee and five months of quarantine.
Aljosa Cebokli
Aljosa Cebokli 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Very insightful video
Tony Power
Tony Power 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
At last one you tuber has finally worked out, yep it’s not 1200$ worth of good. No phone is worth over 400$ full stop including Apple! Your being fkd over big time.
Michael Robson
Michael Robson 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
So why are you here then? If you don't like phones that cost $1000 then you have no business looking at them.
Alan Corona
Alan Corona 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
does Sony know you cracked their brand new phone? at 10:39
Joshua Tatro
Joshua Tatro 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
The ZV-1 might be okay as long as you don't have high-quality aspirations. As soon as you switch from it back to the A7III... the magic fades big time. For me personally, I have no problem watching VLOG-style content, but if the quality is only middling, I have trouble staying involved. Upping the IQ makes a big difference in terms of my engagement (as does some real editing vs. stream-of-consciousness style presentation), but maybe I'm unique in that matter.
MuhdZikry
MuhdZikry 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
This video is just about neh.. and duh..
Sandy
Sandy 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I like verge videos they are very informative and the videos are very high quality but they are not famous because they won't hype about it , hype should not be about product , hype should be about the video which increases views like MKBHD
Akash Yadav
Akash Yadav 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Could it be possible that Android as an operating system, is stopping Sony to tune its camera as good as their "real" Cameras? I mean, take any other Android flagship phone for example, they are never true to nature - extreme over processing, no matter how all those "big and famous" reviewers go Ga-Ga over vivos and Oppos and OnePlus' and Huaweis cameras. If I see something really not that attractive scenery, I would want my camera to show me the same thing. I don't want to see a sewage waterline to be shown as the purest water flowing to the world.
ilhan h
ilhan h 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Sony are monster with phones. I won't be buying anything different.
90s_KID
90s_KID 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Did anyone just heard "pakalam"....😂
NoHomework16
NoHomework16 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
no
Aquatic
Aquatic 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
You guys should try and make a computer! You could expand instead of just making phone and camera reviews and stuff like that you can teach us how to make computers! Oh wait a minute...
Kennith Rosales
Kennith Rosales 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
your not so professional camera reviewer...
Kennith Rosales
Kennith Rosales 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
lifeless?? omg or do u mean more natural??? stupid if u want oversaturated photos get huawei, samsung..
Kennith Rosales
Kennith Rosales 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
if u use AUTO i will stop watching..
Gleb Iaskevich
Gleb Iaskevich 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Да!
Víctor Valero Veciana
Víctor Valero Veciana 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I love this superfast specs check format 😍
062-Mithunraj Suresh
062-Mithunraj Suresh 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Just replace that stock camera app with a gcam mod? Or will it cause compactability issues due to new sensor?
Christoph Tarita
Christoph Tarita 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I think the „point and shoot“ segment as well as the „holiday cameras“ segments are slowly being replaced by phones. Our phones have the ability to zoom, be waterproof and most of the time take better pictures than a camera in the same price range would do. I dont see dslms or dslrs going anywhere soon (ok maybe the days of the dslrs are counted). Any „pro“ photographer will tell you that its mostly about the lenses and less about the sensor, so thats why a phone has a hard time replacing a pro camera for many usecases.
Bill Young
Bill Young 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
A failure of an argument. The problem is that there ARE people who DON'T bring their DLSR or even a Compact camera everywhere they go, but they always have their phone. The statement that the best camera one has is the one they have with them comes to mind, and while cell phone cameras can make fantastic processed photos that are better than the average individual might be able to make, an experienced DLSR/Mirrorless photographer, or for that matter cinematographer, doesn't want the phone making unexpected decisions about how their work will look. They want full control, and that is who this phone is targeted at. If one wants a point and click phone cam, then get a point and click phone cam, because there are literally tens of thousands of them out there, but this phone is the only phone that is dedicated to the photographer who wants more control out of their phones camera. Thus it's a very specific niche, and it will appeal to that niche.
Godswill Umukoro
Godswill Umukoro 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
How to choose between saying duh and doh
David León
David León 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Awesonnn videooooo..!!!!
Maverick Madison
Maverick Madison 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
All dedicated cameras comes with removable batteries while smartphones with decent camera quality don't, if you are a vlogger or you want to shoot a long video, u realize that swapping out the battery is important.
Chris Kelly
Chris Kelly 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
brilliant video as always. clear, detailed and easy to under estimate the effort required to pull it off. MKBHD wants his crown back
Adrian Dobre
Adrian Dobre 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Hei, they should have removed the standard camera app, you can use the pro one in full Auto, just select Program mode , DRO Auto, and that's all folks
Rhowen Caguin
Rhowen Caguin 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
You're "meh" expression kinda adorably audible everytime I hear it.
Josh Lintag
Josh Lintag 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I've never heard Verge curse on their reviews but hey that's pretty cool.
Private Ryan
Private Ryan 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Step 1: You need a table
Travis Richey
Travis Richey 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I really like you, dude. Are you single? ~Trav
Tharindu Vishwanath
Tharindu Vishwanath 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I bought Sony ZV-1 and now thinking to sell Samsung S20 Ultra. 😆
Tony Gan
Tony Gan 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
still dont know how
Tech With Adil
Tech With Adil 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
I will pick my iPhone every day instead of my Sony A7rii if iPhone just adds video background blur.
denny hermawan
denny hermawan 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Nice review 👍🏻
Ade Magnaye
Ade Magnaye 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
"doobly doo" Someone watches Bandrew
Ajith poojary Aj
Ajith poojary Aj 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
SONY is world best...🔥
Garrett Wease
Garrett Wease 3 ਮਹੀਨੇ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ
Fantastic video as always. Really enjoyed the shared insight about changing the way we shoot depending on the camera we use. Hadn’t thought of it that way before.
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